[Don't Panic!] FW: Venturing List: Proposed Changes to Venturing

[Malachi Church]

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On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:12, "John Zantek" <john at zantek.net> wrote:

> I think that may be a supply and demand issue.  Who prefers the new green
> shirt to the old green shirt?   With all the garment industry now overseas,
> it may be impossible to keep anything consistent for such a small customer
> base as BSA....green, blue, OR khaki.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: crew-bounces at crew42.org [mailto:crew-bounces at crew42.org] On Behalf Of
> Nat Walker
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:26 PM
> To: Don't Panic!
> Subject: Re: [Don't Panic!] FW: Venturing List: Proposed Changes to
> Venturing
> 
> I definitely like the green shirts. A lot. Cant they keep the same pattern
> for the shirts but use a different color, rather than use different designs,
> as they do now?
> -Nat
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 6:58 PM, John Zantek wrote:
> 
>> Here's the best chance I've ever seen for people in the "field" to 
>> express their opinions about the Venturing Program...as it was 
>> originally envisioned, how it's being run today, and how it could be 
>> structured in the future.  As the solicitation advises: Be 
>> constructive and respectful.  If there's something you think needs a 
>> attention, you should explain why, and suggest a solution instead of
> simply tossing out a complaint.
>> 
>> When you do send your input, identify yourself.  That adds credibility,
>> while anonymity does not.   If you are a Venturer (youth), say so...since
>> your voice can better be heard.
>> 
>> I understand that the "411 at scouting.org" group is a very small group, but
>> filled with some powerful players.   The Chair of this Task Force is
> Charles
>> Dahlquist, the previous LDS General Young Men's President.  
>> 
>> I have spoken with a few other adults on the Task Force, and they were 
>> unanimous in their support of the "One Oath" initiative where Cub 
>> Scouts, Boy Scouts, Varsity Scouts, and Venturers would all use the 
>> same Oath, Law, Salute, and Sign.  Their solution to the Venturing 
>> Uniform complaints is to put everyone in Boy Scout Khaki.  Venturing 
>> would gain Ranks.  The terms Venturer and Venturing Crew would be 
>> replaced with Venture Scout and Venture Crew or Patrol (independent 
>> units or Crews would only be necessary if there are girls, else it would
> only be a Patrol in a chartered Troop...which
>> reduces annual rechartering paperwork.   NYLT could return to Boy Scouts
>> only, Kodiak would be Varsity and Venture Scouts only.  Varsity 
>> Scouting, omnipresent in the West, but sparse in the Central, almost 
>> non-existent in the NE and Southern Regions, becomes a real wild-card
> because of Dahlquist.
>> They will not make suggestions about OA elections in Crews.
>> 
>> None of this is cast in stone yet, even the One Oath initiative.  The 
>> latter was approved by the 10 officers of the National Council 
>> Executive Committee, and will be voted on by the full 100 members this 
>> winter.  The One Oath initiative is presently supported by 4 Western 
>> Region's Area 1 (the PNW) appointed Venturing adult leaders.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: venturinglist at yahoogroups.com 
>> [mailto:venturinglist at yahoogroups.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:01 PM
>> To: venturinglist at yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Venturing List: Proposed Changes to Venturing
>> 
>> Hello Venturers and Advisors -
>> The BSA published an announcement yesterday that it is in the process 
>> of reviewing all of its programs, including Venturing, as called for 
>> by the BSA National Strategic Plan.  One proposed change is the 
>> replacement of the Venturing Oath, Code, Salute, and Sign with the Boy 
>> Scout Oath, Law, Salute, and Sign.  Also, a National Venturing Review 
>> Task Force has been formed to review the entire Venturing program 
>> (awards, program, membership, marketing, support, training, etc.).
>> 
>> Venturers and Advisors are encouraged by provide comments and 
>> suggestions to the task force by sending a message to 
>> 411 at scouting.org.  Do you like the Venturing awards program or do you 
>> want to see changes?  Then say so!  Don't like the uniform?  Let them
> know!  Have other ideas?  This is your chance!
>> *Please be constructive and respectful.*  You might consider framing 
>> your input to the task force by answering the following questions:
>> 1.       What is the essence of Venturing?
>> 2.       What presently works well in Venturing that helps us serve youth?
>> 3.       What could be made better in Venturing to serve youth more
>> effectively?
>> 4.       If you could keep one thing in Venturing--something you value
>> above all else--what would it be?
>> 5.       If you could remove one aspect of Venturing--what would it be?
>> 
>> To ensure your comments make their way to the task force, please 
>> include Venturing in the subject line.
>> 
>> 
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