[Don't Panic!] FW: Venturing List: Proposed Changes to Venturing

[John Zantek]

I think that may be a supply and demand issue.  Who prefers the new green
shirt to the old green shirt?   With all the garment industry now overseas,
it may be impossible to keep anything consistent for such a small customer
base as BSA....green, blue, OR khaki.

-----Original Message-----
From: crew-bounces at crew42.org [mailto:crew-bounces at crew42.org] On Behalf Of
Nat Walker
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:26 PM
To: Don't Panic!
Subject: Re: [Don't Panic!] FW: Venturing List: Proposed Changes to
Venturing

I definitely like the green shirts. A lot. Cant they keep the same pattern
for the shirts but use a different color, rather than use different designs,
as they do now?
-Nat
On Aug 2, 2012, at 6:58 PM, John Zantek wrote:

> Here's the best chance I've ever seen for people in the "field" to 
> express their opinions about the Venturing Program...as it was 
> originally envisioned, how it's being run today, and how it could be 
> structured in the future.  As the solicitation advises: Be 
> constructive and respectful.  If there's something you think needs a 
> attention, you should explain why, and suggest a solution instead of
simply tossing out a complaint.
> 
> When you do send your input, identify yourself.  That adds credibility,
> while anonymity does not.   If you are a Venturer (youth), say so...since
> your voice can better be heard.
> 
> I understand that the "411 at scouting.org" group is a very small group, but
> filled with some powerful players.   The Chair of this Task Force is
Charles
> Dahlquist, the previous LDS General Young Men's President.  
> 
> I have spoken with a few other adults on the Task Force, and they were 
> unanimous in their support of the "One Oath" initiative where Cub 
> Scouts, Boy Scouts, Varsity Scouts, and Venturers would all use the 
> same Oath, Law, Salute, and Sign.  Their solution to the Venturing 
> Uniform complaints is to put everyone in Boy Scout Khaki.  Venturing 
> would gain Ranks.  The terms Venturer and Venturing Crew would be 
> replaced with Venture Scout and Venture Crew or Patrol (independent 
> units or Crews would only be necessary if there are girls, else it would
only be a Patrol in a chartered Troop...which
> reduces annual rechartering paperwork.   NYLT could return to Boy Scouts
> only, Kodiak would be Varsity and Venture Scouts only.  Varsity 
> Scouting, omnipresent in the West, but sparse in the Central, almost 
> non-existent in the NE and Southern Regions, becomes a real wild-card
because of Dahlquist.
> They will not make suggestions about OA elections in Crews.
> 
> None of this is cast in stone yet, even the One Oath initiative.  The 
> latter was approved by the 10 officers of the National Council 
> Executive Committee, and will be voted on by the full 100 members this 
> winter.  The One Oath initiative is presently supported by 4 Western 
> Region's Area 1 (the PNW) appointed Venturing adult leaders.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: venturinglist at yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:venturinglist at yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:01 PM
> To: venturinglist at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Venturing List: Proposed Changes to Venturing
> 
> Hello Venturers and Advisors -
> The BSA published an announcement yesterday that it is in the process 
> of reviewing all of its programs, including Venturing, as called for 
> by the BSA National Strategic Plan.  One proposed change is the 
> replacement of the Venturing Oath, Code, Salute, and Sign with the Boy 
> Scout Oath, Law, Salute, and Sign.  Also, a National Venturing Review 
> Task Force has been formed to review the entire Venturing program 
> (awards, program, membership, marketing, support, training, etc.).
> 
> Venturers and Advisors are encouraged by provide comments and 
> suggestions to the task force by sending a message to 
> 411 at scouting.org.  Do you like the Venturing awards program or do you 
> want to see changes?  Then say so!  Don't like the uniform?  Let them
know!  Have other ideas?  This is your chance!
> *Please be constructive and respectful.*  You might consider framing 
> your input to the task force by answering the following questions:
> 1.       What is the essence of Venturing?
> 2.       What presently works well in Venturing that helps us serve youth?
> 3.       What could be made better in Venturing to serve youth more
> effectively?
> 4.       If you could keep one thing in Venturing--something you value
> above all else--what would it be?
> 5.       If you could remove one aspect of Venturing--what would it be?
> 
> To ensure your comments make their way to the task force, please 
> include Venturing in the subject line.
> 
> 
> 
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